I have been continuing my efforts to get court records unsealed from the behind-the-scenes subpoena battles in the Trump Jan. 6 and classified documents investigations. (See this post from last September for the previous round.) It’s not clear there is daily news article fodder in such materials since we already know the bottom-line results, but it seems important and worthy to get these things into the public and historical record regardless. I’ve pursuing this via pro se motions to unseal, with informal assistance from my colleagues on the New York Times newsroom legal team led by David McCraw.
The Justice Department has now produced three partly redacted transcripts of hearings in those fights, and Judge Jeb Boasberg unsealed them:
- A 60-page transcript of a Sept. 22, 2022, sealed hearing before then-DDC Chief Judge Beryl Howell in 22-gj-25. The names, as before, are redacted, but this is about subpoenas to Marc Short and Greg Jacob — former top aides to Vice President Pence – for testimony in the election investigation. They had refused to testify because Trump invoked executive and attorney-client privileges, and Judge Howell would rule on Sept. 28 that the crime-fraud-exception overcame the privileges so they had to comply. Judge Boasberg had earlier unsealed that ruling itself.
- A 111-page transcript of a March 9, 2023, sealed hearing before Judge Howell in 23-gj-10. This was about a subpoena to Trump’s personal lawyer Evan Corcoran for records and testimony in the classified documents investigation. Judge Howell would rule on March 17 that that Corcoran had to comply because of the crime-fraud exception. That 87-page ruling itself had already been unsealed in May 2024 during a fight before Judge Aileen Cannon in FLSD in the documents case.
- A 38-page transcript of a March 20, 2023, sealed hearing before Judge Boasberg, who had taken over from Howell as chief judge in DDC at the end of day on March 17, in that same case. Judge Boasberg had spent the weekend cramming all the sealed litigation material before Judge Howell, and this hearing, at 9:30 a.m. on a Monday morning, was his debut as chief, as he observed: “Good morning, everybody. Glad to see you all for my first act as Chief Judge. I’m glad they gave me such a light, inconsequential item to start off with, right?” Trump’s lawyers were seeking a stay of Howell’s ruling, but Boasberg ruled from the bench that he would not grant it.
Corcoran would testify March 24, so the DC Circuit probably declined to grant an emergency stay request by Trump in the interim. I have also made a similar unsealing request at the DC Circuit level, which is pending. In any case, after quickly scanning these three transcripts, I tried as an experiment uploading the PDFs into Claude and asking for a summary of the salient points. Here is what the AI produced:
SEPTEMBER 22, 2022 HEARING
This September 22, 2022 hearing before Chief Judge Howell is a notably different animal from the two Corcoran hearings — it involves a different legal battleground (executive privilege rather than attorney-client privilege/crime-fraud), different witnesses (redacted, but clearly White House or senior administration figures based on context), and a much earlier stage in the investigation. It reads as a genuine Socratic colloquy rather than an adversarial clash, with Howell methodically working through the legal framework before she’s even prepared to rule.
The Context and Parties
This is Grand Jury Matter 22-25, concerning subpoenas to two redacted witnesses. Trump is an “interested party” — not yet a target in the formal sense visible here, but obviously central. His counsel are Timothy Parlatore (lead arguer), Evan Corcoran, and John Rowley. The government is represented by Thomas Windom, John Pellettieri, and Amanda Vaughn. Windom’s presence is notable — he was a senior figure in the January 6th investigation before being detailed to the classified documents matter, and his name here alongside the redacted subject matter strongly suggests this hearing relates to the January 6th/election interference investigation rather than the Mar-a-Lago documents case.
Howell’s Opening Tutorial on Presidential Communications Privilege
Howell opens by doing something unusual and revealing: she essentially lectures the parties on what executive privilege actually means before letting anyone give a speech. She establishes through rapid-fire agreement from both sides that the only privilege at issue is the presidential communications privilege — not deliberative process privilege, which is the species that comes up constantly in FOIA litigation. She precisely defines the two-prong structure: communications must (1) directly involve the President or his immediate White House advisors with broad responsibility for formulating presidential advice, and (2) reflect presidential decisionmaking and deliberations.
She also establishes an important hierarchy within the privilege: communications touching on military, diplomatic, or sensitive national security matters are “core” and entitled to the most deference. Then she pins both sides down on the concession that none of the subpoenaed topics fall into that core category — the government agrees readily, Parlatore pushes back slightly by arguing everything relates to a larger national security concern, but ultimately concedes on the specific topics.
The Government’s “Assume Everything Is Privileged” Gambit
Pellettieri’s strategy is clever and somewhat unusual: rather than fighting over whether the privilege actually applies topic by topic, the government proposes to assume the most demanding standard possible — that Trump’s privilege claim is valid and stands on equal footing with a sitting president’s claim — and then show that the grand jury’s need overcomes it anyway under In re Sealed Case (Espy). The two-part Espy test: (1) the subpoenaed material likely contains important evidence for the investigation, and (2) the evidence is not available from another source.
Howell finds this approach generally sensible but presses on whether the non-core nature of the communications should factor into the need analysis. Pellettieri’s answer — that the public interest in grand jury proceedings is “baked in” to the Espy importance/unavailability standard — satisfies her.
The Attorney-Client Privilege Question (In re Lindsey)
Howell raises In re Lindsey, the D.C. Circuit case holding that a White House counsel cannot invoke attorney-client privilege to avoid grand jury testimony about criminal conduct by executive branch members. The government says it’s flatly dispositive. Parlatore’s counter is more nuanced: Lindsey involved an attorney who witnessed criminal conduct and sought to shield those observations — here, the government is asking about privileged legal advice on how to respond to a situation, not about observed crimes. He frames it as the government trying to vitiate the attorney-client privilege on a mere presumption of criminal conduct without a threshold showing. Howell appears to take the distinction seriously, though she doesn’t rule on it.
Parlatore’s Most Substantive and Most Problematic Argument
Parlatore advances the claim that before any privilege can be pierced, the Court should evaluate whether the grand jury is actually investigating a crime — essentially asking Howell to make a preliminary finding on the viability of the criminal theory. He concedes this isn’t a “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard but can’t cleanly articulate what threshold he wants applied. Howell handles this deftly: she points out that search warrants have already been obtained from multiple magistrate judges upon findings of probable cause, which more than satisfies any preliminary suspicion requirement. Parlatore’s response — citing the Carter Page FISA warrants as an example of probable cause findings that were later shown to be erroneous — is colorful but doesn’t land with Howell, who correctly notes that the application before her is independent of those prior warrant proceedings.
Howell’s sharpest retort comes when she notes that what Parlatore is really asking her to do is the grand jury’s job — to assess whether the evidence collected supports a crime. She makes clear she supervises the grand jury; she doesn’t run it or substitute her judgment for it.
Parlatore’s Creative “Proffer” Suggestion
The most procedurally inventive moment is Parlatore’s proposal that the witnesses — who have already appeared before the grand jury and invoked privilege — submit ex parte written proffers to Howell summarizing what their testimony would be, so she can evaluate whether the evidence is truly “important” before ordering them to testify. He draws the analogy to in camera document review, which courts do routinely in privilege cases involving documents.
Howell finds it clever but immediately identifies the problems: she doesn’t know enough about the investigation to evaluate a proffer meaningfully; it would insert her into the grand jury’s information-gathering process in an unprecedented way; it could potentially expose grand jury witness information to Trump (a possible target); and it risks keeping from the grand jury information that could actually be highly relevant. The government calls it a complete nonstarter — unprecedented, and inconsistent with how grand juries work. Pellettieri adds that in camera review makes sense for documents where you can redact irrelevant portions, but for witness testimony where the government is only asking about specific relevant topics, there’s nothing to “review” before permitting the testimony.
The Consolidation Request and the Dual Role Problem
Parlatore asks Howell to consolidate this motion with anticipated motions involving two additional witnesses (redacted), arguing common legal issues and judicial efficiency. Howell is politely but firmly skeptical — privilege assessments are witness-specific, she says, and these two witnesses alone have very different roles from each other. She declines to preview a ruling but signals she’ll handle witnesses individually.
Parlatore’s closing argument raises a genuinely important structural point: Trump had a “dual role” at the time of the relevant events — sitting president bound by Article II to ensure faithful execution of the laws, but also a candidate. The line between legitimate presidential communications and political activity is especially blurry in that context, and Parlatore argues Howell should factor into the “public interest” analysis the institutional precedent being set for future presidential transitions. If a successor administration can freely invade the privilege of its predecessor — regardless of whether actual crimes occurred — that chills the kind of candid advice-seeking the privilege is designed to protect.
Howell actually expresses some sympathy for this concern at an abstract level, agreeing that a grand jury must be investigating at least a reasonable suspicion of actual criminal conduct, not merely policy disagreements between administrations. But she has the ex parte submission from the government, and she appears satisfied that the threshold has been met.
Overall Character of the Hearing
The hearing ends without a ruling — Howell takes it under submission. What’s most striking about the transcript is how much of it is Howell teaching the parties what the law is before asking them to argue under it, and how much more restrained and exploratory the tone is compared to the Corcoran hearings six months later. By March 2023, the classified documents investigation had hardened into something concrete; here, in September 2022, the executive privilege litigation feels more like first principles being established for what everyone anticipates will be a long and multiply-litigated campaign.
MARCH 9, 2023 HEARING
Here are the most salient aspects of this March 9, 2023 sealed hearing before Chief Judge Beryl Howell (D.D.C.):
The Core Dispute: Crime-Fraud Exception The central issue was the DOJ’s motion to compel grand jury testimony from an attorney (whose name is redacted throughout but is understood to be Evan Corcoran, Trump’s lawyer) by invoking the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege. The government argued that attorney-client communications were used in furtherance of crimes, including obstruction and unlawful retention of classified documents.
Judge Howell’s Sharp Skepticism of the Government The judge was notably aggressive in questioning the DOJ. She repeatedly pressed prosecutors on why their briefing ignored seven months of post-August 8, 2022 compliance activity — including multiple searches and productions of additional classified documents — and whether that activity was potentially exculpatory. She pointedly challenged whether they omitted it precisely because it was exculpatory.
The Legal Standard Debate There was significant back-and-forth over whether the applicable standard for the crime-fraud exception is “probable cause” or a lower “prima facie” standard. Judge Howell pushed back on the government’s reliance on a 1985 D.C. Circuit opinion, noting the Circuit had since walked back that dicta and established a standard below probable cause.
Statutory Specificity Judge Howell pressed the government to clarify exactly which subsections of 18 U.S.C. §793 (Espionage Act) and §1512 (obstruction) it was relying on. She questioned the government’s use of §793(e) — which covers unauthorized possession — rather than §793(d), which covers lawful possession followed by willful retention. She called the government’s reading of §793(e) “a little bit of a strained reading” and “forced.”
The Box-Moving and CCTV Footage Theory In sealed ex parte testimony (partially visible in the transcript), the government laid out its theory that between May 24 and June 2, 2022, approximately 64 boxes were removed from Mar-a-Lago’s storage room, leaving only 25–30 behind when the attorney conducted the document review on June 3. The government further alleged that after learning of a subpoena for CCTV footage, there was “a very suspicious series of events” and apparent attempts to move documents back into the storage room while avoiding camera detection.
The “Nexus” Problem Trump’s attorney James Trusty argued the government had not established the required nexus between the attorney’s specific communications and any criminal conduct — a requirement for the crime-fraud exception. He characterized the government’s approach as a “bridge too far.”
Procedural Complexity The hearing itself was logistically complicated, with multiple rounds of parties being shuffled in and out of the courtroom for ex parte sessions. Portions of the transcript are heavily redacted. The court ordered the government to submit a written element-by-element analysis by 4 p.m. the following day, since it had not been included in their briefs.
Context and Significance This hearing was a key step in the Special Counsel’s investigation into Trump’s handling of classified documents. Judge Howell ultimately ruled in favor of the government and ordered the attorney to testify — a decision later upheld on appeal.
MARCH 20, 2023 HEARING
This March 20, 2023 hearing before Chief Judge James Boasberg is a tightly focused, fast-moving proceeding — essentially the immediate appellate sequel to the Howell hearing eleven days earlier. Here are the most salient aspects:
The Occasion: Judge Boasberg’s First Act as Chief Judge Boasberg explicitly noted, with dry humor, that this was his first act as the newly elevated Chief Judge. The matter landed on his docket because Judge Howell had stepped down from that role.
The Core Issue: Motion to Stay Howell’s Order The attorney (Corcoran, redacted throughout) and Trump’s team were seeking a stay of Judge Howell’s order compelling testimony and document production, pending appeal to the D.C. Circuit. Corcoran’s lawyers (led by Michael Levy) and Trump’s counsel (Jim Trusty) had divided their labor, with Levy focused on the privilege/work product arguments and Trusty on the testimonial component.
The Four Categories of Disputed Material Judge Boasberg methodically organized the dispute into four buckets: (1) testimony on the six topics Howell ordered; (2) documents in Appendix A; (3) documents in Appendix B1; and (4) documents in Appendix B2. The most contested category was B2, which Levy argued was entirely opinion work product — a claim Boasberg was openly skeptical of, stating he had read it carefully and found it “a tough argument to make.”
The Innocent Attorney Argument Levy’s most legally interesting argument was that the D.C. Circuit has never held that the crime-fraud exception, when applied to a client’s misconduct, vitiates an innocent attorney’s independent interest in protecting their own fact or opinion work product. He cited a Fifth Circuit case involving Mark Pomerantz and Whitney Adams as precedent supporting appellate review at this stage. This was a genuine issue of first impression in the D.C. Circuit, and Boasberg acknowledged the argument was interesting enough that he would be curious to see what the Circuit did with it.
Trusty’s Candid Admission In a remarkable moment, Trusty admitted he had not yet read Howell’s 86-page opinion before appearing in court to argue it was wrong. Boasberg did not hide his surprise, pointedly noting he had spent his weekend reading it carefully. Trusty acknowledged the awkwardness but pressed his request for additional briefing time regardless.
Boasberg’s Ruling: Stay Denied, 48 Hours Granted Boasberg denied the stay on all four stay factors. On likelihood of success, he found Howell’s opinion “strong and convincing” and unlikely to be overturned. On irreparable harm, he reasoned that since the disclosure was secret within the grand jury, fact work product could potentially be clawed back if the Circuit reversed, making the harm non-irreparable. On the final two factors (harm to others and public interest), he placed the blame for prior delays squarely on “the former President, not the government,” and cited the public interest in expeditious resolution by the Special Counsel.
However, he gave 48 hours — until noon Wednesday — for the parties to seek an emergency administrative stay from the Court of Appeals, which he openly acknowledged they might well obtain.
The Scheduling Pressure The government disclosed it wanted Corcoran to appear before the grand jury that Friday — a tight timeline that underscored the government’s strategic interest in moving before any appellate intervention could moot the issue, a pattern Trusty explicitly called out from prior executive privilege litigation.
Document Dissemination Question In a brief housekeeping exchange (with Trusty temporarily excused), both the government and Corcoran’s team agreed the B2 documents should not be formally disseminated by the Court to Trump — though Corcoran retained the right to share his own work product with his client as he saw fit.
In sum, this hearing was a swift, efficient proceeding in which Boasberg denied the stay while giving enough runway for the Circuit to weigh in — threading the needle between honoring Howell’s careful work and acknowledging that genuinely novel legal questions were at stake.













